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Tweets From Maine Govt Oversight Cmte CDC Shredding Hearing (Pt 3)

Posted on March 14, 2014. Filed under: Uncategorized |

Live tweets from within the Maine Government Oversight Committee’s probe into alleged document shredding by ME Center for Disease Control officials. (part 3)





Dr. Pinette concludes her testimony by claiming ignorance about “version control. #mepolitics


Zukas, deputy director at CDC takes seat #mepolitics


Will Zukas be the only one to take the 5th. #mepolitics Or will her attorney do all the talking?


Zuckas, mentioned frequently here as the one who gave the destruction order, testifying now. #mepolitics


Christine Zukas who has been painted as the ring leader of this fiasco now being sworn in to testify. Interested to hear this. #mepolitics

Next up: CDC Deputy Director Christine Zukas. She’s the one accused of ordering the document shredding. #mepolitics


Zukas: at CDC since 2006. #mepolitics


So whoever advised blackberry texts were beyond reach of FOAA was correct. #mepolitics and that’s bad.


Christine Zukas, CDC Dep. Director, w/ counsel, now, appearing before Committee investigating ME CDC document shredding. #mepolitics


Tweets from Maine Govt Oversight Cmte CDC Shredding Hearing (Pt 2) #mepolitics #GOC #CDCshred #versioncontrol 


RT @bowdoin81@cejesq And now we know no docs were actually destroyed despite improper order. #mepolitics// Actually, just the opposite.


Apparently Arthur Anderson and Enron were just early pioneers in version control. #mepolitics


Zukas: “my role was providing feedback” to Finch and Leahy-Lind who came up with proposed criteria. #mepolitics


Zuckas: I was not intimately involved scoring changes, says she couldn’t even understand it. Trust staff. #mepolitics

Zukas: I was not intimately involved (in scoring.) #mepolitics


Christine Dukas testifies she trusted the staff and denies any understand of the changed formula. #MEPolitics


Christine Dukas throws the staff under the bus: admits document destruction “to keep the process clear.” #MEPolitics

Zuckas said she never had document retention training until 4.13, the year after this became controversy. #mepolitics


Zukas says she ordered document destruction to avoid confusion with previous drafts. #mepolitics

Zukas: the final document described how the winners and losers were determined #mepolitics


Zukas says she was never trained about whether to keep working documents until the year after this all happened. #mepolitics


The Katz’ football analogy, “Change in the Rules of the Game,” is becoming the metaphor for DHHS document shredding hearings. #MEPolitics


Pinette: there was concern about Bangor not being the lead #mepolitics

Zuckas: Direction given to make Bangor the winner. Says she doesn’t remember who said it. #mepolitics

Zukas: there was discussion about methodology, must have been flawed. Agreed to change methodology. #mepolitics


Zukas: in phone call said not keeping working documents. Asked her to destroy them. #mepolitics


Zuckas: I asked Leahy-Lind to destroy documents that had Bangor in the grant scoring lead. #mepolitics


Zukas: did not say it was in response to FOAA request #mepolitics


Zukas falls on her sword and admits ordering document destruction. #mepolitics


Zukas: the only other time discussing shredding was in my office. Leahy-Lind and Finch there. #mepolitics


Zuckas: Destruction order not a response to SJ FOAA, no way of knowing. Never followed up to make sure LL complied with request #mepolitics


Maine CDC Program Director Zukas says she asked workers to destroy documents as a way to control documents previous to final versions@WCSH6


The shame of all of this is that Chris Zukas is taking the rap for the organized manipulation of the protocols and the process. #MEPolitics.


Zukas too admits they rigged the scoring to get the results they wanted. #mepolitics


Zukas: it was never expressed as an expectation (to track process of coming up with criteria and scoring) #mepolitics


Zukas: “I either put it in the shredder or out it in my recycle bin” earlier version of lead selection #mepolitics


“I either put it in the shredder or I put it in my recycle bin.” Zukas says of original scoresheet. #mepolitics


Zuckas: I put old scoring document in shredder, or the recycle bin, I can’t remember, after meeting w/DHHS chief, Pinette et al #mepolitics


Zukas: Involved in criteria but not scoring #mepolitics


Zukas: Pinette involved in changing methodology, #mepolitics


Zukas suggests changes in criteria were “data based” and pins methodology on Director Pinette #MEPolitics


Zukas: Pinette involved in changing scoring criteria, gave order to change it. #mepolitics


Zukas: In hindsight process docs of changing scoring methodology should not have been destroyed #mepolitics


Zukas: methodology, not criteria had changed. In hindsight, think changes should have been made public. #mepolitics


Zukas: I never throw anything away (now) #mepolitics


Zukas denies ever was physical with Leahy-Lind or anyone else. #mepolitics


.@Stevie_Rob Wait: You’re saying the shredding of public documents is an inescapable problem? #mepolitics

Oh OK. RT @mikeshepherdME .@Stevie_Rob Wait: You’re saying the shredding of public documents is an inescapable problem? #mepolitics


@mikeshepherdME @Stevie_Rob Sure. No government, no government corruption! #mepolitics


Wish I could ask: Is it true that CDC admins were emailed that they may not send emails to staff w/out review by a superior? #MEPolitics


I’ve burned through 1.5 phone batteries and almost all of my laptop battery. #mepolitics


Zukas says she did not believe she was doing anything wrong when she asked workers to destroy documents. #mepolitics

Zukas: “i did not feel I was doing anything improper.” (In directing shredding) #mepolitics


Zukas: “I believe it was Dr. Pinette” who said scoring methodology should be changed after Bangor didn’t get lead #mepolitics


Zukas says she never ordered doc destruction before but also says she’d never been part of bid process that was changed halfway through.

Zukas steps down #mepolitics


Finch and Leahy-Lind both want to be heard #mepolitics

Testimony has concluded. Now those who testified have the chance to refute or clarify anything they’ve heard. #mepolitics


Finch: makes it sound like it was a trainwreck of a process #mepolitics


Finch: I understand that i bare some responsibility. Despite testimony program is worthy of public funds. #mepolitics


Finch: It would be a tragedy for the results of this committee to negatively affect the Healthy Maine Partnerships program. #mepolitics


Finch: “it would be a tragedy” if the result of this would negatively impact the HMPs statewide. #mepoltiics


Important. MT @thisdog In short: Maine doesn’t retain messages sent on state-issued blackberries = secret msg system. #mepolitics

Finch: “It would be a tragedy” if committee’s proceedings were to affect the good works done by Healthy Maine. #mepolitics


On DHHS Shredding 1) We had to keep documents?, and 2) If data doesn’t give the results we expect, we change the methodology. #MEPolitics


Pinette: praises staff at CDC. Should be trusted to help people lead healthy lives. #mepolitics


@PaulMerrillWMTW It’s what those outlets in the wall are for! :^)

@DirigoBlue Left the cords in the car! Thought we’d be taking a lunch break!


Dr. Shelia Pinette concludes with a PSA complementing the CDC staff. #MEPolitics


MORE BREAKING: Gov. LePage’s managers did an end run around the grant scoring process for millions in Maine DHHS… 


Oh no. Now we’re asking a room of lawyers and lawmakers if they have anything else to say. #mepolitics #imondeadline

@PaulMerrillWMTW Get the popcorn ready, we still have the legislative grandstanding to look forward to.


Ashcroft: committee must vote on release of testimony #mepolitics


The public broadcast of the Committee hearings on DHHS document shredding was a high point in transparency in ME governance. #MEPolitics


RT @allforjury@mikeshepherdME blackberry must have some record though. #mepolitics @thisdog// Nope. Data use is available .. not message.


Poor @SenRogerKatz holding his head, as others discuss “who’s on first”… #mepolitics #GOC


Craven: “this was a massive change … We were shocked.” #mepolitics


RT @allforjury@cejesq I know they are tracked by date and time …. #mepolitics. Is this an invitation to bid? 😉


Burns: suggest we not take any action today#mepolitics


Cain: we need to increase transparency #mepolitics


Shame that former 14 yr CDC Head Dr Dora Mills wasn’t invited to come in, discuss existing procedures under her leadership #mepolitics


Adjourned #mepolitics

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Tweets from Maine Govt Oversight Cmte CDC Shredding Hearing (Pt 2)

Posted on March 14, 2014. Filed under: Uncategorized |

Live tweets from within the Maine Government Oversight Committee’s probe into alleged document shredding by ME Center for Disease Control officials. (part 2)



Whistleblower in Maine CDC document shredding case about to testify @WCSH6


Leahy-Lind sworn in #mepolitics


Alleged whistleblower Sharon Leahy-Lind now beginning testimony with lawyer @dillesquire#mepolitics


The whistleblower in this case Sharon Leahy-Lind now testifying #mepolitics


Cynthia Dill – brought documents relating to scoring HMPs. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: asked to brainstorm some criteria for HMPs end of March, early April. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: “in initial process there was no weighting that I was aware of” #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: 8 leads would get more more than other 19 HMPs. #mepolitics


Sharon Leahy-Lind describes dev of criteria that was 2 have been used to evaluate 27 agencies & identify original 8 selected #MEPolitics


Leahy-Lind: at June 6 meeting, handed copies of score sheets. Bangor was not lead. Said oh Bangor not lead.#mepolitics


UPDATE: CDC officials testify on grant doc destruction, manipulation case: 


Leahy-Lind: Shawn (sp) will be disappointed #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: looks at score sheet including “support and promotion of developing infrastructure” criterion #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: gut reaction. I said how did Bangor public health get to be the lead? Pinette said “that’s political.”#mepolitics


Leahy-Lind says CDC Director Pinette told her results of funding decisions were changed for political reasons. #mepolitics


CDC Whisteblower: Sheila Pinette said HMP funding scoring decisions were political #mepolitics

(1) Leahy-Lind: Bangor was in 2nd place for funding. At final meeting Bangor jumped to the top. When Leahy-Lind asked Pinette… #mepolitics


(2) …how Bangor jumped to the top for funding Pinette told her “It’s political. Shawn (Yardley) has been a good friend.” #mepolitics


Whistleblower in document shredding case says CDC director said Bangor moving up to top ranking for funding was”political”@WCSH6


Leahy-Lind: Zukas told her to make Finch destroy his documents and said she needed to destroy documents too. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind describes the control of communications w/in CDC. Ordered to use Blackberry messaging to avoid a record. #MEPolitics


Leahy-Lind: told Sockabasin she was ordered by Zukas to shred documents #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind, whistleblower: I was told to use Blackberry instant messages to communicate with CDC staff. Untraceable. No FOAA #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind says Zukas is the one ordering the docs destruction. What say you Christine Zukas? She’s up next so we’ll see. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: Finch said ordered to shred documents. Leahy-Lind said don’t. Illegal.#mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: it’s become clear to me there’s been a manipulations of data…with respect to outcome of leads.#mepolitics


LL: I talked to Pinette, CDC director, about destroying docs; Pinette said she’d talk to DHHS chief, Mayhew #mepolitics

ICYMI: @PaulMerrillWMTW is live-tweeting testimony from a gov’t oversight hearing on allegations the CDC forced workers to shred docs


Background on Blackberry pin messages. Some elected/appointed officials love ’em. Untraceable, no FOAA:  #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: Zukas said info. was going to be FOAA’d. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: I was told to shred all documentation related to the Healthy Maine Partnerships award. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: “I was told to shred all documentation related to the HMPS. All of my files.” #mepolitics


Sharon Leahy-Lind testifies that she was instructed to shred “All (her) files” related to Healthy ME Partnership. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: she and Finch told to rate answers to questions posed to partnership directors. Informal and casual scoring.#mepolitics


Sharon Leahy-Lind describes a division driven by impossible deadlines to make crucial decisions about ME Health. #MEPolitics


Leahy-Lind’s testimony has been most damning of the day. Implicates CDC Director Dr. Sheila Pinette in bid-rigging. #mepolitics


Maine Committee Keeps CDC Shred Testimony Public 


Leahy-Lind: not consulted on adding criteria and tie breaker criteria. “That caused me great concern.” #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: scoring of answers from district liaisons at odds with hers and Finch’s impressions. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind says attempt to destroy documents was in anticipation of FOAA request. #mepolitics


Sharon Leahy-Lind testifies possible FOAA request was mentioned in conv. instructing her to destroy documents. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind says Zukas told her specifically to “shred” #mepolitics

Leahy-Lind: when learned that MHP budget cut, told can’t close any of the partnerships.#mepolitics

@cwilliams55 @ltice also key is they never used population served as a criteria for the HMP awards. #mepolitics


Wondering if CDC employees had to take time off to be here today to testify. #mepolitics

Leahy-Lind: Zukas instruction: the first time it was “shred.” The next time it was “destroy.” Re:documents. #mepolitics

Katz wants to know how they communicated at CDC if they were not using email. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind says she was told to use Blackberry IM and not email because IM could not be FOAAed –#mepolitics


The arbitrary control of communications within the CDC is becoming a central issue. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: told not to use email in dealing with HMPs. Can be FOAA’d. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: I wish I had packed my bags and left they day they told me to avoid email and communicate by BlackBerry message. #mepolitics


Several high-profile state employees carry two mobile phones — one is usually a Blackberry -now we know why. #mepolitcs


Looks like it may be time for state employees to get iPhones instead of Blackberries.


Updated story with info from @PaulMerrillWMTW on CDC shredding probe testimony.  #mepolitics


We’ve asked the AGs office if text messages between state employees about state business are subject to state’s FOAA. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: District liaisons very upset when data shared from survey monkey survey. Put on CDC website. #mepolitics


At an earlier meeting Craven called it a “monkey survey” #mepolitics @cwilliams55 #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind: Zukas said survey results would be kept confidential #mepolitics


Sockabasin takes seat


Sockabasin, recently added in civil case, now taking oath. #mepolitics


Sockabasin: director of office of health equity. Katz recuses himself.#mepolitics



“Any record, regardless of the form in which it is maintained by an agency or official, can be a public record.” #mepolitics . . .


@thisdog From AG’s office, I take it?


@andiparkinson2 yes from FOAA Ombudsman Brenda Kielty in AG’s office. Thanks to her for quick answer. #mepolitics


Christopher Williams ‏@cwilliams55 

Sockabasin: Leahy-Lind was “very nervous that (Bangor) would not be getting that lead contract. #mepolitics


Sockabasin : “our intention was that every HMPS would be covered” even though there would be lead agencies.#mepolitics


Whistleblower in document shredding case says two other Maine CDC employees were told to destroy files.@WCSH6


One of those employees confirmed this morning he was one of the employees told to purge his files @WCSH6


“…or contains information relating to the transaction of public or governmental business… #mepolitics

@thisdog Text data records are useless as a matter of public access unless actively saved. #MEPolitics

@cejesq thus the point of using that as a primary means of communication. It’s under the radar. but clearly being exploited. #mepolitics


AG ombudsman: Texts subject to FOAA || Problem: Blackberry pins untraceable.


@thisdog@cejesq . It’s under the radar. but clearly being exploited. // Bingo – and there are emails w/in CDC that reinforce that.


Sockabasin: “I would not agree that is true (air of secrecy.)…I never received that directive” to not use email.#mepolitics


“I do not instant message on my blackberry — I never communicated that way.” Sockabasin says. #mepolitics #CDC #docshred


Interesting to see the eye rolls, head shaking, and sideways glances happening during this hearing. #mepolitics


Sockabasin denies directives concerning limiting email correspondence w/in CDC. Remember this point. #MEPolitics


From @stevemistler: Maine CDC officials confirm document destruction order in public testimony. #mepolitics 


Sockabasin refuting what Leahy-Lind said about using BlackBerry Messenger to hide conversations. #mepolitics


Sockabasin testifying before oversight committee #mepolitics


“I was never told to discard or shred anything throughout this process,” Sockabasin tells the GOC. #mepolitics


Sockabasin says she was never told to destroy docs or give the order #mepolitics


Sockabasin: “I was never told to discard or shred documents during this process.” #mepolitics


Sockabasin: never told not to use email to avoid FOAA #mepolitics

Sockabasin: “absolutely not” ever told not to use email in order to avoid FOAA.#mepolitics

It certainly seems like someone in this hearing is lying under oath. Testimonies totally contradicting each other. #mepolitics


Sockabasin says intention of destroying documents was around “version control” and not to hide anything. #mepolitics

Sockabasin: Leahy-Lind said she had been told to shred documents #mepolitics


Sockabasin: concern was around version control. #mepolitics


A new US CDC study published in the journal “Pediatrics” shows that childhood immunization saves lives and money. 


Sockabasin channeling inner @Governor_LePage w/ “end of story” #mepolitics #CDCshred #GOC


They were tasked with distributing millions of dollars to HMPs but apparently nobody was “in charge” seriously? #mepolitics

Sockabasin of the CDC now testifying giving a completely different version of events. Her version much less sinister. #mepolitics


Wow…Spin Alert: CDC document shredding order was simply “version control” #mepolitics

Sockabasin: “I did not see a problem with that.” destroying versions. #mepolitics


Sockabasin just said she’s fine with GOC seeing any of her text messages. #mepolitics

Sockabasin accuses Leahy-Lind of lying saying a meeting LL referred to re: blackberry IM not subject to FOAA “never happened.” #mepolitics


Sockabasin testifies meeting described by Sharon Leahy-Lind “never happened.” #MEPolitics


Sockabasin said document destruction was ‘version control’ #mepolitics


Sockabasin steps down


Pinette takes seat. #mepolitics


Next up: CDC Director Dr. Sheila Pinette. #mepolitics


Pinette: director of CDC


Pinette is a Mayhew/LePage appointee, just FYI. For anybody keeping track. #mepolitics


CDC Director Sheila Pinette now testifying in document shredding investigation. #MEPolitics

Dr. Sheila Pinette has been sworn in and is now testifying #mepolitics


Pinette: Mayhew told her to come up with a way to deal with funding cuts. #mepolitics

Pinette about to begin testifying. #mepolitics


Pinette: RFPs take six months or longer and wasn’t time to do that. #mepolitics


Leahy-Lind (in black and white jacket on left) listens to Pinette testify. #mepolitics


HMPs meant to combat public health issues: smoking, diabetes, obesity. Funded with big tobacco class action suit funds #mepolitics


Pinette: $7.5 m to $4.7 m funding decrease for Healthy Maine. #mepolitics


Dr. Sheila Pinette (CDC Director) decides to recite her script rather than answering simple questions. #MEPolitics


Pinette: if gave all 27 HMPs equal amount would all get about $60,000. #mepolitics


Maine’s most Irish towns  getting far more clicks on website than CDC shredding testimony  #web


RT @allforjury@cejesq has she gone all lois learner yet? #mepolitics// Her lawyer must be dying.


So much shade. RT @PaulMerrillWMTW Pinette about to begin testifying. #mepolitics


Pinette: called on staff to develop criteria to come up with eight lead agencies. #mepolitics


He’s really h8ing on @PaulMerrillWMTW in that one. MT @Paul_Koenig So much shade. #mepolitics


Pinette: Zukas asked her to see results. Thing stood out to me was healthy Androscoggin so low.#mepolitics


@cwilliams55 us too. #mepolitics that’s why we were originally looking into this.


Pinette contradicts LL testimony saying she did not say anything about Shawn Yardley and denies knowing his position in Bangor #mepolitics

Pinette: “I don’t recall ever saying that” Bangor needs to be lead. #mepolitics


Pinette just called it a “monkey survey” too … it’s actually a “survey monkey” #mepolitics


@thisdog Channeling her inner Margaret Craven? 😉


CDC Director Pinette denies prior testimony on her commenting negatively on Bangor in selection process. #mepolitics


Pinette says she tried to remain “professional” and “neutral” through the process. One thing is clear: Someone’s lying here. #mepolitics

Katz hammers on the weighting of the scores, after-the-fact, again … #mepolitics

Craven met with Pinette on this, so it will be interesting to see if she has questions. #mepolitics

CDC Director Pinette denies prior testimony on her commenting negatively on Bangor in selection process. #mepolitics


Pinette: I never was oriented or trained about archive management. #mepolitics

Katz pressing Pinette, who claims she played no role in changing scoring to make Bangor lead grant winner. #mepolitics

I often have 4, 5, 6 or more versions of a drawing Management of them key I place old versions in separate folder from current #mepolitics


Even the director of the CDC was never trained in public document retention or how to manage public records/assets – wow. #mepolitics


Pinette said Zukas told her she had requested documents be destroyed in the interest of “version control.” #mepolitics


Pinette says Zukas told her about the document shred order. #mepolitics


Pinette: June 3 Zukas came to me and said she ordered documents destroyed #mepolitics


Subjective evaluation: Dr. Pinette is scrambling for credibility at ME DHHS hearing on document shredding. #mepolitics

Pinette confirms that Zukas told her about doc destruction b/c pending FOAA. #mepolitics


“We weren’t even certain if what we were doing was appropriate.” Pinette says. #mepolitics

Maine CDC director says worker under her asked for documents to be destroyed to control versions of documents @WCSH6


Pinette: we didn’t even know if what we were doing was appropriate (scoring process #mepolitics


@SenRogerKatz grilled Pinette on changing the scoring process to change the results. #mepolitics


Pinette: someone at DAFS said they could go with 9 leads for HMP. #mepolitics


Waiting for “I’m not contradicting my previous statement; I am exercising ‘version control’, Senator” #mepolitics #GOC #CDCshred


Pinette: I delegated responsibility for coming up with process to Zukas. #mepolitics


Pinette: we were going in uncharted areas. #mepolitics


Subjective opinion: Dr. Pinette’s attorney is doing no service to his client as she flounders in DHHS hearing. #MEPolitics


So far I don’t see why any of this needed to be in executive session. #mepolitics #docshred #CDC HMP coverup.


Dr. Pinette testifies that she and her team were pressured into making a decision by time constraints. #MEPolitics


Pinette: I only found out about that afterward (shredding documents other than final version) #mepolitics


Dr. Pinette reiterates that she’d had no training on document retention. #mepolitics


CDC didn’t want to show all the records b/c then the new and “subjective” criteria and weighting would have been apparent. #mepolitics


It should be noted that a claim of lack of knowledge of legal requirements of one’s position is not an excuse for illegality. #MEPolitics

In other words, when you look at the changing scorecards you can see how the game was rigged #mepolitics #versioncontrol


DHHS spokesperson tells me CDC workers are being paid for the day they’re spending in the document-shredding hearing. #mepolitics


now everybody deny blackberrys used for covert messaging. say it with me. #mepolitics


Pinette: “no” to Cain question: did CDC specifically select Bangor to be the lead? #mepolitics


So from the AG — Blackberry messages on state blackberrys are “transient” #mepolitics


Pinette says she never instructed anyone to destroy documents. #mepolitics


Pinette: told by Zukas order to destroy records. Then Leahy-Lind. Pinette never told to destroy documents. #mepolitics

“Text messages on a State-issued Blackberry are “transient” and are not stored on the Blackberry server …” cont. #mepolitics


“…nor are they captured on the OIT server backup tapes. Text messages pass through the carrier service, U.S. Cellular.” #mepolitics


Pinette: my understanding was that the order was given but none were destroyed. #mepolitics


Maine CDC Director says it is her understanding the order was given to destroy documents but none were @WCSH6


CDC Director Pinette testifies that to he knowledge No documents were destroyed. #MEPolitics


Pinette: Chris said we shouldn’t have these floating around. It’s not the final version. #mepolitics


In short: Maine does not retain text messages sent on state-issued blackberry phones = secret msg system.



Pinette: I just thought she would file it away, I guess. #mepolitics


RT @thisdog: “Text messages on a State-issued Blackberry are “transient” and are not stored on the Blackberry server …” cont. #mepolitics

@stevemistler It’s like snapchat for government officials. #mepolitics


Pinette steps down #mepolitics

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Live Tweets from Maine Government Oversight Committee CDC Shredding Hearing (Pt 1)

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Live tweets from within the Maine Government Oversight Committee’s probe into alleged document shredding by ME Center for Disease Control officials. (part 1)



The GOC live feed has started. Questioning CDC officials is on the agenda  #mepolitics


Want to know about CDC questioning? @cwilliams55 will be tweeting from the GOC meeting.


Government Oversight Committee starting. Subpoenaed CDC employees are here flanked by lawyers. #mepolitics


Bill Nemitz: #Maine CDC officials’ request for secrecy mocks good #government … via @pressherald #mepolitics


Government Oversight Committee awaiting testimony on CDC doc shredding case. #mepolitics


Committee deciding whether to take testimony in executive session. If so all testimony would be confidential. #mepolitics


GOC talking about going behind closed doors . . . to talk about CDC document shred? #irony #mepolitics


Gov. Oversight meeting debating whether to go into executive session to hear testimony from CDC officials. #mepolitics


Sen Craven: This problem arose out of a lack of transparency which is why she opposes going into executive session. #mepolitics

Debating about whether to take testimony on CDC shredding probe in a private executive session. #mepolitics

Beth Ashcroft outlines process and statutes around exec. session at GOC. #mepolitics


Sen. Burns says committee should be trusted to take testimony behind closed doors; don’t want to be used as forum for civil litigation…


Burns arguing for going into executive session cuz were all elected officials that should be trusted by public or disband #GOC #mepolitics

Sen Burns favors going into executive session: “To suggest this process is not transparent is absurd.” #mepolitics

Burns arguing for executive session now. “I don’t want to be used as a forum to settle someone’s litigation.” #mepolitics


Sen. Katz: It would be “beyond ironic” if we were to do our work in secret. #mepolitics


Katz says open session goes core of why the committee exists. Ironic if committee responsible for sunshine goes into the dark. #mepolitics


Craven and Katz prefer open session; Burns opposed. #mepolitics


Katz says he has confidence they will get truthful answers. #mepolitics


If the Democrats stick together with Katz they have the votes to keep it open. #mepolitics

@SenRogerKatz “I think it would be wrong for committee responsible for sunshine in government should do so in the dark” #mepolitics


I wonder if the media present will get to weigh in on the executive session debate? #mepolitics


Johnson speaks for open session. Davis sees as deposition, should be private. #mepolitics


Davis says testimony is like a deposition and it should be handled in private #mepolitics


Cotta brings up the issue of timing with ongoing litigation. #mepolitics


Cotta: either exec. session or wait until after lawsuit complete. #mepolitics


Cain says this is a “new space” for Government Oversight. and at a “precedent-setting moment.” #mepolitics


Accountability is at the heart of Cain’s personal opinion that the work be done in open session. #mepolitics

Sen. Cain in Gov. Oversight Cmt: Making the case for transparency, oversight and accountability in CDC hearing now #mepolitics


Cain: keep discussion in public. Kruger agrees with Cain. Makes motion to keep open session. #mepolitics

Tie vote means GOC testimony from CDC officials will be in exec session. Looking now like votes are there for public session #mepolitics

Motion is to take the testimony in public session by Kruger. #mepolitics

It is possible to go in on a case-by-case basis — but they will need a clear motion on why and must take that vote in public. #mepolitics


“Depositions are almost always handled in private.” Davis says. #mepolitics

@thisdog Aren’t depositions turned over to attorneys on the other side?


Rep. Kruger calls for sunlight in oversight cmt despite LePage admin request to block public review of CDC doc shredding case #mepolitics


“We have a lot of attorneys in the room today.” No kidding. #mepolitics

Attorney for DHHS trying to address committee before vote on executive session; Cain, co-chair, wants the vote first #mepolitics


Cain says she doesn’t want a “free-for-all” from the audience. #mepolitics


Government Oversight Committee votes to conduct CDC document shredding probe in public. #mepolitics

Government Oversight Committee votes 7-3 not to go behind closed doors for testimony in document shredding case@WCSH6


GOC votes to take testimony in public 7-3 the vote #mepolitics

GOC votes 7-3 to keep testimony in public #mepolitics


Vote: 7-3 to remain in public session. #mepolitics


Bipartisan oversight cmt votes 7-3 in favor of public session to discuss LePage’s CDC document shredding scandal #mepolitics


Question now: How many of CDC witnesses take 5th, to avoid self-incrimination. That’s what Paul Violette did in 2011 #mepolitics


If you’re allergic to lawyers the GOC meeting this morning is a hazardous environment to be in. #mepolitics


@Robb1239 any space at all up there?

@thisdog There’s room behind us if you get tired of standing


BREAKING: The Maine Legislature’s Government Oversight Committee just denied a request by Gov. LePage’s managers… 


Cain: order of testimony – Wigand, Finch, Leahy-Lind, Sockabasin, Pinette, Zukas. #mepolitics


Watching Government Oversight on my phone at Logan Airport, just because. #timetogetalife

@aedurkin *waves*


Cain: no questioning of witnesses by other witnesses or their attorneys will be allowed.#mepolitics


Legislative panel mulls allowing secret testimony in shredding scandal 


All those testifying today can have their lawyer with them. Most will likely take the 5th. #mepolitics


Lawyer objecting to broadcasting or televising these proceedings. #mepolitics


Attorney asks that public hearing not be broadcast. #mepolitics


Deb Wigand, first up. Her Attorney requests to turn off live cameras, MPBN. Dep. AG says that won’t comply with FOAA #mepolitics


Attorney for the state says they will allow the broadcast to continue. #mepolitics


Weigand attorney trying to prevent us from recording testimony. AG’s office slams the door on that. Win #2 for the media. #mepolitics


TV cameras can stay. #mepolitics #thankyou


LePage’s CDC lawyers continue to try to block public testimony with legal maneuvers; Oversight cmt says no #mepolitics


They are swearing in witnesses now. #mepolitics


I apologize for the rogue “e” it’s Wigand


Sen. Cain upholds transparency in CDC hearing #mepolitics


Katz starts questions. First on decision to use RFP. #mepolitics


Wigand with attorney. Direction division of population health. Katz asks her about use of RFPs for lead agency. #mepolitics


Wigand is answering first question, so this won’t be a complete stonewalling. #mepolitics


@PaulMerrillWMTW: First up: CDC Director of Division of Population Health Deb Wigand. She’s joined by her lawyer. #mepolitics


Sen. Katz opens the questioning of Wigand who’s been at the CDC since 1999 #mepolitics


Wigand, dir. of public health, not a defendant in civil suit, BTW. Three of the 5 CDC people here are. #mepolitics


Wigand: Finch told her he was asked to destroy grant docs. He wasn’t comfortable w/it. She defends reason not 2 make it an issue #mepolitics


Wigand said she told Finch to do what he felt comfortable doing.#mepolitics


Retweeted by Sun Journal

@cwilliams55 Will Katz ask if she was intimidated by Craven’s demands for explanations why her organization wasn’t lead agency? #mepolitics


Background on CDC shred, grant manipulation here: 

Maine legislators vote to keep testimony public today in CDC probe. 


Wigand: funding cut for healthy Maine partnerships.#mepolitics


The view from the cheap seats. #mepolitics


Katz line of questions why not even cut instead of reduction in HMPs. #mepolitics


Katz asks about scoring criteria for Healthy Maine partnership. Which ones will be designated leads. #mepolitics


Question now on the scoring criteria that was created to judge HMPs. Notes first round were not weighted? #mepolitics


Katz ?s aimed @ reason for funding change amid cuts to health program. Key issue b/c report found evidence of grant manipulation #mepolitics


GOC hears details on CDC document shred case. #mepolitics


Wigand: recalls no discussion about criteria, including weighting. #mepolitics


GOC meeting on CDC doc shred case #mepolitics


Wigand denies destroying or asking anyone to destroy documents #mepolitics


Wigand testifies that CDC workers were asked to destroy documents. #mepolitics

Wigand says she was not asked to shred documents but did hear that somebody was asked to destroy documents. #mepolitics


Wigand: “I have not been asked to destroy any documents.” Also denies asking anyone else to destroy documents. #mepolitics


Wigand says she talked to Finch, who said he was asked to destroy documents and wasn’t comfortable about that. #mepolitics


CDC worker testifies she was aware people in the agency were asked to destroy documents@WCSH6


Maine CDC worker didn’t think destroying document request was for concealment but to cut down on multiple versions of documents@WCSH6


Wigand said she told Finch to do what he felt comfortable doing.#mepolitics


Katz: did you become aware thT Bangor had been second place, then became in first place.#mepolitics

Wigand didn’t recall #mepolitics


Sharon Leahy-Lind with attorney Cynthia Dill

Wigand stays on the record and candidly answers. #mepolitics


Wigand: Finch told her he was asked to destroy grant docs. He wasn’t comfortable w/it. She defends reason not 2 make it an issue #mepolitics


Wigand: I was involved in reviewing ideas around criteria, but not ratings.#mepolitics


Cain picks up where Katz left off on why criteria changed. #mepolitics


Wigand: “I saw that as a version control issue.” Attempt at concealment “never occurred to me.” #mepolitics


Wigand on hearing her subordinate saying he was asked to destroy documents: didn’t think this was an effort at concealment. #mepolitics


Wigand says “shred” was a media term but doc destruction was more an issue of “version control” #mepolitics


In #mepolitics today, a win for transparency in the Maine CDC document-shredding case.  via @stevemistler


Why was Finch uncomfortable destroying documents? If it was simply “version control”? #mepolitics


Wigand: defunding was a new thing. #mepolitics


Wigand: I was not involved in scoring HMPs. #mepolitics


Wigand: I don’t remember a discussion about destroying things or keeping things.#mepolitics


Wigand indicating there’s confusion about when to keep working documents. #mepolitics


Wigand says it’s still not clear to her who’s in charge of records retention at the CDC. Wow. #mepolitics


Cain goes back to why Finch was uncomfortable with destruction order. #mepolitics


Wigand: Christine Zukas, defendant in whistleblower suit, asked my subordinate to destroy grant docs #mepolitics


Wigand says it was Zukas who gave the order to destroy documents. #mepolitics


Wigand: “I know it was Christine Zukas” who asked Finch to destroy the documents.#mepolitics


Wigand steps down#mepolitics


Wigand done for now. She answered every question. She is not part of the civil suit. #mepolitics

Finch takes seat before GOC


Finch, senior program manager for community based programs#mepolitics

Finch now up before GOC on CDC doc shred case. #mepolitics


Up next: CDC Senior Program Manager for Community-based Programming Andrew Finch. #mepolitics


Andrew Finch of CDC who reported being asked to shred documents now testifying #mepolitics


Finch: told Wigand he’d been told to purge files of all development criteria for HMPs.#mepolitics


Finch: Christine Zukas told him to purge documents. #mepolitics

Finch: Christine Zukas asked him to purge files. #mepolitics


Finch says CDC Deputy Director Christine Zukas asked him to destroy documents. Told superior he wasn’t comfortable with that. #mepolitics


Maine CDC worker says Christine Zukas told another employee to destroy documents @WCSH6

Maine CDC worker Andy Finch says Christine Zukas asked him to purge his files @wcsh6

Finch: was member of working group that created criteria for HMPs. #mepolitics


Maine CDC worker Andy Finch says Chistine Zukas told him to purge his files @WCSH6

Finch: development of criteria was a process, criteria were considered and discarded along the way.#mepolitics


Cain: consider how HMPs would fare under new criteria? Finch: Absolutely not. #mepolitics


Rob Poindexter ‏@Robb1239  was more of an instruction or a request?” Finch: “Bit of both.” #mepolitics

Finch, not a defendant in civil suit, up now. Was part of scoring criteria drafting, also says he was asked to destroy docs #mepolitics


BREAKING: CDC official testifies he was ordered to destroy documents  #mepolitics


Finch: Sharon, Deb and myself came up with initial criteria for scoring 27 HMPs. #mepolitics


CDC worker Andy Finch says instruction to destroy documents was so that previous versions wouldn’t be confused with final documents


Finch: “I have no such sheet in my possession” that had Bangor in second place. #mepolitics


Finch: discussion that it would be ironic if Bangor was not a lead HMPS.#mepolitics


Finch: weighting was changed to scoring. #mepolitics


Finch: CDC group changed weighting of criteria for outcome of funding decisions to show clearer leaders. #mepolitics

Finch: group made decision to change weightings in criteria to achieve greater difference in scores, but not outcome.#mepolitics


@stevemistler is livetweeting from the CDC document shredding GOC meeting. Follow him to get regular updates. #mepolitics


Maine lawmakers vote to keep testimony public in CDC probe: The Government Oversight Committee is taking… 


Just how the scoring for HMPs was manipulated to reach results becomes more clear. #mepolitics


Finch: don’t know why scoring info. not released at time winners announced. #mepolitics


Finch: Zukas told him to destroy documents after she had met with CDC Director Pinnette. #mepolitics

Finch says he had never been asked to destroy, purge, shred etc documents in his 18 years as a state employee #mepolitics


Finch says in 18 years in state gov’t he had never before ordered to destroy documents. #mepolitics

Finch: Never in 18 years asked to destroy docs until 2012. Says Zukas requested it after meeting CDC dir. Pinette #mepolitics


Finch: “I have never been instructed to do that (destroy documents) in my 18 years as an employee”#mepolitics


Employees testify CDC docs were ordered to be destroyed. Has anyone asked @lepage2014 about his knowledge of scandal? #mepress #mepolitics


Finch: “I burned (documents asked to be destroyed)to a disc and removed from my computer.” Gave to OPEGA.#mepolitics


Finch didn’t destroy docs. He burned them to a disc and later turned them over to watchdog agency #mepolitics


Bigger picture here is that it sounds like CDC folks don’t know what public information to keep, who is in charge of it, etc. #mepolitics


Finch says he’s had no training on public document retention. Did not know whon#foaa point was at CDC.#mepolitics


Rep Harvell said he wanted to embrace his “inner-Jack McCoy” here. Looking forward 2 it. He’s legendarily feared in House floor debates.

@Robb1239 Yet he dressed like he was going to a holiday party?  has livestream: CDC officials testify there were orders to “purge” documents. #mepolitics


Maine lawmakers vote to keep testimony public in CDC probe: The Government Oversight Committee is taking… 


The way the CDC scored this “competition” seems eerily similar to the figure skating judges in Sochi


Maine lawmakers vote to keep testimony public in CDC probe . 


Finch: In central district three of coalitions tied. Was suggested we use kit data that was … used ti break tie.#mepolitics


Let’s remember that we’re talking about steering $4.7 million in taxpayer dollars. #mepolitics


From @sunjournal : Maine CDC officials say they were told to destroy documents  #mepolitics


@SenRogerKatz: How is this different from changing what field goals are worth after a game? Finch: I don’t know that it is. #mepolitics


Finch: “it appears that way.” In answer to Katz ? about Bangor moving into 1st after scores were weighted.#mepolitics


Katz compares grant scoring change to making football field goals 4 points after game is settled. Finch doesn’t disagree #mepolitics

Change to making football field goals 4 points after game is settled. Finch doesn’t disagree

Katz: How is what you did different from changing the rules in football after the game? Finch: It isn’t. #mepolitics


Finch: re: destruction request”I had been given this directive and I had not followed through with it.” #mepolitics


Finch: re: destruction request”I had been given this directive and I had not followed through with it.” #mepolitics


Finch: “the director was not involved in the (criteria)development group.” #mepolitics


GREAT football analogy by Katz compares CDC scoring 2 changing rules after a game is over awarding 4 points for FG changing the outcome


Finch: “I presented the different weighting scenarios to Christine Zukas.” #mepolitics


GOC breaks #mepolitics















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